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Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 322	Posted - 2012.10.20 18:39:00 - [1] - Quote How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 323	Posted - 2012.10.20 18:47:00 - [2] - Quote Mirima Thurander wrote: James Amril-Kesh wrote: "It works for wormholes, so it should work for nullsec. Right? RIGHT?" lol no. Natsett Amuinn wrote: How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all. Look its one of the herd coming to defend local and hide behind its safety of instant Intel. And more of the sheep people show them selfs. Seriously? This member of the herd doesn't rely on local for intell genius, I use a chanell specifically for that. Grow up.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 324	Posted - 2012.10.20 18:58:00 - [3] - Quote Lin-Young Borovskova wrote: Natsett Amuinn wrote: How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all. Never ever do what this guy asks ccp !!! Cloak alts serve a purpose, it's a valid tactic and pressure over enemies and everyone uses them. And then you silly idea will simply and definitively eradicate from the game hot-dropping and the purpose of cloacky characters. It's their purpose, deal with it or die. No it doesn't, and it actually solves the issue of "afk cloakers" that people keep bitchign about. Where do you get the idea that afk cloaking is about forcing people into stations? That is neither right, nor fun, it sure isn't a benefit to PvP in null. If you cloak, you shouldn't show on local, that way you can actually utilize those cynos to hotdrop on people in a system, because they didn't dock up the second you entered and cloaked. The whole point of cloaking is so that people DON'T KNOW YOUR THERE. Local for cloaked ships limits there capacity to act as recon and intel, because people dock up when they see you there. I can't sit in a system and spy if you know I'm there, and I can't hotdrop a fleet on a group when they know I'm there. PS: Sounds a lot more like you don't want cloaked recon to actually be able to do these things to you, because currently you can just dock up and effectively neuter the recon and intel guys.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 324	Posted - 2012.10.20 19:01:00 - [4] - Quote Craft Matar wrote: Though I am a noob and have never ventured into null I can see the point of ridding null of local, Who in there right mind would advertise there location deep in enemy territory It makes black ops kind of pointless GÇô im cloaked, sneaking though behind enemy lines but I forgot to turn off my system wide transmitter ? eh. A compromise would be a module that removes you from local Run silent - ? That ONLY effects the cloaked ship. Again, remove cloaked ships from local and they can actually do recon and intel instead of just causing everyone to dock up.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 324	Posted - 2012.10.20 19:19:00 - [5] - Quote Lin-Young Borovskova wrote: Natsett Amuinn wrote: Lin-Young Borovskova wrote: Natsett Amuinn wrote: How the hell does not having local increase the number of targets? One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. They don't need to remove local, they need to remove cloaked ships from local; that's all. Never ever do what this guy asks ccp !!! Cloak alts serve a purpose, it's a valid tactic and pressure over enemies and everyone uses them. And then you silly idea will simply and definitively eradicate from the game hot-dropping and the purpose of cloacky characters. It's their purpose, deal with it or die. No it doesn't, and it actually solves the issue of "afk cloakers" that people keep bitchign about. Where do you get the idea that afk cloaking is about forcing people into stations? That is neither right, nor fun, it sure isn't a benefit to PvP in null. If you cloak, you shouldn't show on local, that way you can actually utilize those cynos to hotdrop on people in a system, because they didn't dock up the second you entered and cloaked. The whole point of cloaking is so that people DON'T KNOW YOUR THERE. Local for cloaked ships limits there capacity to act as recon and intel, because people dock up when they see you there. I can't sit in a system and spy if you know I'm there, and I can't hotdrop a fleet on a group when they know I'm there. PS: Sounds a lot more like you don't want cloaked recon to actually be able to do these things to you, because currently you can just dock up and effectively neuter the recon and intel guys. If the guy is afk how can he even hurt you?-can you seriously answer this question? If he's afk he can't do anything to you If he's cloacky just do what it takes to bait it and get it. That easy. EDIT: I actually know a little bit more about cloacking and about cloacky reccon than you, and I don't give a crap you know I'm there when I'm not afk (more often than actually baiting idiots). If you're looking for the ultimate null sec hunter buff, then you clearly don't want anything else than ruining the game for every one, because once this is possible, even lvl1's in high sec will be far more interesting than whatever null sec rating. You're clearly bad at thinking. Yeah, I do believe one of the reasons I gave for removing cloaks fromlocal is the "OMG people are afk cloaked in my system", in other words "the bitching about afk cloaks". I don't give a ** if someone is afk, I understand full well that an afk player isn't a thread. But I also understand that removing local doesn't generate more targets. Chat has to do with how many people you get to shoot at. No local makes null harder, fact. Harder means fewer people, fact. Cloakers are only driving people into stations, fact. People sitting in stations doesn't generate more pvp, fact. People in stations reduces the number of targets, fact. CCP will not remove local from null. We can even get into the entirely geeky reason that it's actually counter to the lore they've already written. Yes, indeed, I went there. Knowing the cloaked ship is there isn't good. It's better people didn't know they were there. If they don't know they're there, they won't dock, they'll remeain a potential target, and the cloaked guy can actually bring in guys, or maybe even uncloak and get that lone guy sitting there. All that is much better than your desire to cause people to dock. Making people dock is about as ***** boring as you can get. And no, you don't "know more about cloaking" than anyone else, get over yourself.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 326	Posted - 2012.10.20 20:05:00 - [6] - Quote Lin-Young Borovskova wrote: Since the beginning your claims are from someone not even knowing goonswarm/CFC has specific and dedicated "wings" for this single purpose (much like every other alliance), witch makes of you a noob running his mouth because he can or simply a random bee who doesn't even know what's going on on his own alliance. I can even name those wings for you if you really need me to refresh your ideas or eventually get some interest for what's going on in your own alliance instead of posting stuff you clearly have no idea the repercussions in a huge part of this game. I'm sorry, what? What claim? My "beginning" post only stated they should remove local for cloaks so that people will stop bitching about afk cloakers. Which is what people complain about. I'm well aware that cloaking a ship in a system is a tactic. I'm well aware that GSF does it. Being a member of goonwaffe doesn't make me a mindless drone, incapable of critical thinking or the ability to express MY OWN opinion, it only makes me a member of the best group of players in the game. That's all. I disagree with many of my corp mates, and members of the CFC. God forbid I, as an individual, actually have my own opinion. And yes, I'm actually of the opinion that cloaked ships should be removed from local. I'm also of the opinion that CCP should create a new module that works with the cloak to generate false gate jumps within a specific range of a gate. Just because I think it would be interesting. The point of cloaking is so people don't know you're there. It's currently used mostly to force people to dock, which isn't good for the game. I'm pretty sure CCP didn't make cloaks for the purpose that it's used for today.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 326	Posted - 2012.10.20 20:14:00 - [7] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: [quote=Natsett Amuinn] Ideally I'd like to get rid of local and leave constellation, but that will never happen. Mr Epeen I wouldn't mind this at all. But you can't do it only to null, it would have to effect all of EVE, except WH space. It is so silly to say, but it really does matter. Communication in EVE is actually tied to the lore of the game. It's so stupid to use this as an excuse for not removing local from null, but it's something a lot of people actually care about. I'm wondering. Do people even know why there is no local in WH space? Again, so stupid, but it's entirely based on the lore that CCP has written. If you want to remove local in null, than you need to make gates built by the players. And then they should probably give the players the ability to intall the communications grid after the gates built, just like high sec.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 328	Posted - 2012.10.20 22:58:00 - [8] - Quote Preserve the lore Remove cloaked ships from local.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 333	Posted - 2012.10.21 15:11:00 - [9] - Quote Andski wrote: Natsett Amuinn wrote: Preserve the lore Remove cloaked ships from local. yeah i'd love to just park a cloaked hictor on a beacon and be absolutely undetectable when somebody shows up to scout it, waiting for something to come through so I can decloak, light my cyno and drop my nyx on it Honestly doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. Can't be any ***** worse than hitting a warp bubble halfway between gates, while I'm warping. What kind of deviant ********** spends 2 hours flying from one gate to another, just to drop a bubble that can't be avoided?
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 333	Posted - 2012.10.21 17:17:00 - [10] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Mirima Thurander wrote: I lived in null for years now on several toons I know how it works And its work the same way for that hole time nute enters system pos station or log out till he leaves Or you out number them 7 to1. That's how nullsec has worked for as long as I have played. Bahahaha. I'm sure you have plenty of nullsec experience. Your combat record definitely shows this. Then you really don't want to look at my stats. In fact, dear god don't look at my stats.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 333	Posted - 2012.10.21 17:32:00 - [11] - Quote Mirima Thurander wrote: Because no one Posts on alts because if you disagree with your overlord you get removed from your alliances. Wow man, that sucks. Message me, we can talk about getting you into goons. How much isk do you have?
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 333	Posted - 2012.10.21 17:46:00 - [12] - Quote Seems pretty sensible to want to remove local when your overlords don't let you use it.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 333	Posted - 2012.10.21 18:04:00 - [13] - Quote Seleia O'Sinnor wrote: A chat capable of serving as a super intel tool is simply wrong. Removing local destroys the game lore. Didn't Tony Gonzalez write two EVE novels that had cloaked ships not showing in local? Make the game match the lore CCP. Remove cloaked ships from local.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 333	Posted - 2012.10.21 18:39:00 - [14] - Quote If you're cloaked and you use local, you appear in the list and then become scannable for a period of time. Then they could make a skill that reduces the time you're able to be scanned while cloaked after you use local. And of course make cloaked ships not appear in local.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 334	Posted - 2012.10.21 18:46:00 - [15] - Quote Kult Altol wrote: Make it so you can pay concord to be exempt from local for a certain amount of time. that should spice things up. Now I want you to think about that for a second.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 365	Posted - 2012.10.24 17:24:00 - [16] - Quote Remove cloaked ships from local. Make cloaked ships scannable for 60 sec. if they use local. Have a scanning skill increase that duration per level. 120 sec at lvl 5.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 377	Posted - 2012.10.24 20:55:00 - [17] - Quote Mirima Thurander wrote: Lord Zim wrote: Mirima Thurander wrote: u said removing.local.will make it harder to find.peoples caved and said fine add a counter to the UI that lists the number of people on system but you ignored.that post. It's "ignored" because it's a complete joke of a suggestion. Give me an.idea that would work any better than.mine and not just be a replacement for local. O yea u can't because u don't want local to go away you use it to stay safe, your only posting because your trying to troll, or you that much of a nullbear u need local. I no longer have time to keep playing your game but I will keep using your posts as a Reason to bump my thread. Massive burn dude. Nullbear, zing! let's see Zim come back from that one!
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 378	Posted - 2012.10.25 15:10:00 - [18] - Quote The only justifiable solution to the "local problem" is for CCP to create a module that you can install on your ship that removes you from the local list. If you communicate in local with the mod installed, you appear in local for a brief period of time. They could make it a rig or something. It should be passive, and illegal to smuggle into, or have installed in high sec. Seperate station and space local. If you're in a station, anywhere in EVE, you are put into a local chat that only has the people in the station. In space you only see the people in space. Cloaked ships should never be in local. The guy that writes the lore wrote about ships sitting in systems cloaked, and no one ever knowing they were there. The game doesn't match the CCP approved lore, and I don't think that you should be able to use local to figure out how many possible stealthed ships your enemy brought with them to your system. Any change to local has to effect THE ENTIRE GAME. Not just one region. "Just because it's null" isn't good enough a reason. Local doesn't break anything in null; it's only an inconvenience to some. Honestly, I think the only reason some people don't want local is because they want it to be harder for them to "get ganked" in null. That's the only ******* people it would benefit. Miners and PvE guys, they're the only ones that benefit from no local, tell me how wrong I am to say that SOME of those guys just want it harder to "get ganked".
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 379	Posted - 2012.10.25 15:35:00 - [19] - Quote svenska flicka wrote: always CFC fighting to keep local in all these threads. Not surprised. As you post with your NPC alt. Who castrated you? Let me guess? You're alliance kicks when you use local, like the OP?
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 379	Posted - 2012.10.25 15:48:00 - [20] - Quote svenska flicka wrote: Natsett Amuinn wrote: svenska flicka wrote: always CFC fighting to keep local in all these threads. Not surprised. As you post with your NPC alt. Who castrated you? Let me guess? You're alliance kicks when you use local, like the OP? Not really npc alt at all. Don't worry Castrated me? I am a woman Oh and, you saying no local would make it safer for PVE:ers than with local has to be the joke of the day by the way. You know who would hurt by removing local? Alliances with thousands of tards, that's who! Not having local would hurt us? How would it being harder to find individual members hurt us? I'm pretty sure we have more miners and PvEers than you do silly. So you're an NPC main who want it to be easier for them to jump into a null system without people knowing they're there. You really think YOU have an impact on us? I really want to say ** or your lying, but I think that isn't very polite and not proper of a mature adult male. Then I have to wonder if I'm mature, and I honestly can't tell. But then I'm like, *** called me a tard.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 380	Posted - 2012.10.25 16:35:00 - [21] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Mirima Thurander wrote: Its nice to see everyone agreeing removing local.would make.it harder for people to.know.if I was in your system or not. Just to clear this up THATS THE POINT. It's obvious you're only seeing one part of a significantly more complex picture. I'm sorry you're incapable of understanding why this is an utterly ****** suggestion, but it is. No, they get it. They just don't give a . Huge difference. They don't care that it would make the game boring, they want corps to be forced to put groups of guys on stations 24/ 7 to protect their space. PS: And they think the largest group of null players would have the hardest time with this. Obviously their **, disfunctional, unorganized corporations and alliance will manage to be able to keep guys on their gates while they bounce around CFC space. We'd never be able to send hundreds over to them AND protect our own systems. Obviously "the blob" will have the hardest time of this, not considerably smaller entitties. PSS: If you can't already keep us from TAKING your space, how the ** are you going to DEFEND it against us. The stupidity of it.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 381	Posted - 2012.10.25 17:02:00 - [22] - Quote svenska flicka wrote: The blob AKA space sov holding alliance are the ones that would hurt the most by this compared to small entities with less or no space and the more space you have.... The less space the easier it gets. Less space also=less players. Again, what you say is a joke and thanks for giving me a good laugh Yes, because lots of high seccers are coming to null. And you're not hiding behind an NPC alt.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 383	Posted - 2012.10.25 19:59:00 - [23] - Quote svenska flicka wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: npc corp poster lecturing about the safety of other regions lol almost as funny when a wormhole guy does it. I am in NPC corp as we speak, not hiding and I even had the pleasure of fighting your tengu fleets I also had the pleasure of never ever being close to dying while doing anoms from the north to the south for years in EVE, because of... local. Sure, while you post on a 4 month old NPC alt about the years of PvEing in null sec. I'm sure you're very trustworthy. Tantamount to talking a bunch of **** to your overly large, musclebound, neighbor and then running inside and calling the cops when he comes over to teach you about manners.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 383	Posted - 2012.10.25 20:13:00 - [24] - Quote svenska flicka wrote: Natsett Amuinn wrote: svenska flicka wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: npc corp poster lecturing about the safety of other regions lol almost as funny when a wormhole guy does it. I am in NPC corp as we speak, not hiding and I even had the pleasure of fighting your tengu fleets I also had the pleasure of never ever being close to dying while doing anoms from the north to the south for years in EVE, because of... local. Sure, while you post on a 4 month old NPC alt about the years of PvEing in null sec. I'm sure you're very trustworthy. Tantamount to talking a bunch of ** to your overly large, musclebound, neighbor and then running inside and calling the cops when he comes over to teach you about manners. Are you now describing your real life where people have to call the cops on you? Please, do tell more mister buff guy **********, I'm a cripple. The tard comment wasn't personal enough. Why do you want to hurt me?
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 489	Posted - 2012.11.02 18:00:00 - [25] - Quote Only more tedius gameplay can save EVE.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 489	Posted - 2012.11.02 19:20:00 - [26] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: Remove the crutch. Would it make it eadier for you to get your space back?
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 489	Posted - 2012.11.02 19:26:00 - [27] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Lord Zim wrote: Klymer wrote: wat? I thought the point of removing local was MOAR PVP!!! not slip through the cracks. I've been kind or keeping an eye on this threadnaught but now I see it's a complete joke. I am Jacks utter disappointment. Anyone saying they want local removed because it will promote so much more PVP have either absolutely no idea how it'll actually impact the players, or they've gotten kicked out of nullsec and just want to hurt them back. So are you afraid of being hurt? Look a couple of posts up at the NC guy wanting to remove local. And no local would make less pvp not more. That was both of the points being made, that you don't seem to get.

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